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	<title>Comments on: Google Embarrases Chinese Because It Could Not Win</title>
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		<title>By: bozo</title>
		<link>http://www.webguild.org/20100115/google-embarrases-chinese-because-it-could-not-win-here/comment-page-1#comment-40278</link>
		<dc:creator>bozo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 09:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No comment, but whoever wrote it, forgot to sign it, &quot;Mao&quot;. 
 
 
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		<title>By: Bozo de Niro </title>
		<link>http://www.webguild.org/20100115/google-embarrases-chinese-because-it-could-not-win-here/comment-page-1#comment-40280</link>
		<dc:creator>Bozo de Niro </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 02:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Btw why is there no link on your site here to display comments by date of submission (i.e. newest-to-oldest and oldest-to-newest)?  Kind of clunky without it.  Also why do you insist on censoring comments before posting them? You&#039;d be much more credible if you posted an inappropriate comment and censored it as such rather than the way you&#039;re doing it.  If I don&#039;t see my comments, I can only imagine the other comments you&#039;re censoring as well. Good luck.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Btw why is there no link on your site here to display comments by date of submission (i.e. newest-to-oldest and oldest-to-newest)?  Kind of clunky without it.  Also why do you insist on censoring comments before posting them? You&#039;d be much more credible if you posted an inappropriate comment and censored it as such rather than the way you&#039;re doing it.  If I don&#039;t see my comments, I can only imagine the other comments you&#039;re censoring as well. Good luck.</p>
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		<title>By: @mohan_ramanujam</title>
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		<dc:creator>@mohan_ramanujam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 18:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree. I think a previous article by Chairman Meow also alludes to China strategic thinking. I am from the far east and I remember the pain that China was causing the US via Vietnam, Cambodia, etc. America buckled and they ended up on the most favored nation list and also a significant voice on the UN Security Council. China knows US&#039;s two party boxing match will keep the US from doing any long-term planning which gives the time to build its position around the world. Once its population moves up into the middle-class, with more educated they can then deal with issues like free-speech, and other freedoms.  Just see how quickly they have embraced capitalism from the heady days of communism.  GOOG, having participated in China in the first place looses credibility when it now tries to use the human-rights issue (walk-the-walk before talking-the-talk). </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. I think a previous article by Chairman Meow also alludes to China strategic thinking. I am from the far east and I remember the pain that China was causing the US via Vietnam, Cambodia, etc. America buckled and they ended up on the most favored nation list and also a significant voice on the UN Security Council. China knows US&#039;s two party boxing match will keep the US from doing any long-term planning which gives the time to build its position around the world. Once its population moves up into the middle-class, with more educated they can then deal with issues like free-speech, and other freedoms.  Just see how quickly they have embraced capitalism from the heady days of communism.  GOOG, having participated in China in the first place looses credibility when it now tries to use the human-rights issue (walk-the-walk before talking-the-talk).</p>
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		<title>By: insider</title>
		<link>http://www.webguild.org/20100115/google-embarrases-chinese-because-it-could-not-win-here/comment-page-1#comment-40147</link>
		<dc:creator>insider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 08:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is all about market share. In the search space the leader get 90% of the revenue. In China that is Baidu. So even if Google has 30% of the market share it is getting less than 10% of the revenue. They are under pressure to increase revenue. No they shot themselves in the foot. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is all about market share. In the search space the leader get 90% of the revenue. In China that is Baidu. So even if Google has 30% of the market share it is getting less than 10% of the revenue. They are under pressure to increase revenue. No they shot themselves in the foot.</p>
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		<title>By: vkmo</title>
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		<dc:creator>vkmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 04:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you. This is a really dumb thing some american businesses are doing. At the same time, they are hindering companies like Google with censorship.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you. This is a really dumb thing some american businesses are doing. At the same time, they are hindering companies like Google with censorship.</p>
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		<title>By: vkmo</title>
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		<dc:creator>vkmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 02:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I sent the following letter to Google on Dec 29, and wonder if it was the straw that broke the camel&#039;s back: 
 
Dear Mr President, 
 
Ref: Google maps in USA show Arunachal Pradesh as disputed territory, not part of India. In China they show Arunachal Pradesh as part of China 
 
Google maps show Arunachal Pradesh as a disputed territory between Democratic Republic of India and successors of Communist Dictator Mao Tse Tung of China. In 1845 USA annexed California from Mexico following war. Arunachal Pradesh has had tribes and communities which were Buddhist and Hindu, and was annexed by the British in 1858, but there was  no war.   
 
All British, and most American maps (lonelyplanet.com, worldatlas.com, wikipedia etc) show Arunachal Pradesh as part of India.  
 
Presidents Kennedy, Nixon, Carter and all the following Presidents were opposed to China&#039;s occupation of Tibet. They treated Tibet as a separate country and helped it with military support supplied through Nepal. They respected Nobel Laureate Dalai Lama and considered him to be the leader of Tibet, a separate country, not part of Mao Tse Tung&#8217;s Communist China. What Google Maps (US version) shows instead, is that Tibet is &quot;integral&quot; part of China, and Arunachal Pradesh- which is beyond Tibet in the south, is shown as disputed territory. Mao Tse Tung&#039;s successors in Communist China are racist in claiming that all national groups of Oriental race (including Taiwan and Japan) really ought to be ruled from Beijing, which it regards as the prime center of Oriental race. Google Maps should NOT subscribe to that theory. What is really disturbing is that Google Maps within China shows Arunachal Pradesh as part of China (not disputed), in addition to just Tibet. You should have a discussion with your Maps department to change all this.  
 
Arunachal Pradesh, like Tibet was mostly Buddhist. Chinese Communist military attacks of the 1950s under Mao Tse Tung seized Tibet. But Arunachal Pradesh remained part of India, and in recent election in 2009 elected a government by democratic process, with a 70% voting percentage of its electorate. This is clear evidence that there is no dispute in the minds of residents of Arunachal Pradesh about their borders, their loyalty and their traditions. In 2009, Dalai Lama, India&#039;s Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and other important leaders visited Arunachal Pradesh despite some Chinese protestations.  
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sent the following letter to Google on Dec 29, and wonder if it was the straw that broke the camel&#039;s back: </p>
<p>Dear Mr President, </p>
<p>Ref: Google maps in USA show Arunachal Pradesh as disputed territory, not part of India. In China they show Arunachal Pradesh as part of China </p>
<p>Google maps show Arunachal Pradesh as a disputed territory between Democratic Republic of India and successors of Communist Dictator Mao Tse Tung of China. In 1845 USA annexed California from Mexico following war. Arunachal Pradesh has had tribes and communities which were Buddhist and Hindu, and was annexed by the British in 1858, but there was  no war.   </p>
<p>All British, and most American maps (lonelyplanet.com, worldatlas.com, wikipedia etc) show Arunachal Pradesh as part of India.  </p>
<p>Presidents Kennedy, Nixon, Carter and all the following Presidents were opposed to China&#039;s occupation of Tibet. They treated Tibet as a separate country and helped it with military support supplied through Nepal. They respected Nobel Laureate Dalai Lama and considered him to be the leader of Tibet, a separate country, not part of Mao Tse Tung&rsquo;s Communist China. What Google Maps (US version) shows instead, is that Tibet is &quot;integral&quot; part of China, and Arunachal Pradesh- which is beyond Tibet in the south, is shown as disputed territory. Mao Tse Tung&#039;s successors in Communist China are racist in claiming that all national groups of Oriental race (including Taiwan and Japan) really ought to be ruled from Beijing, which it regards as the prime center of Oriental race. Google Maps should NOT subscribe to that theory. What is really disturbing is that Google Maps within China shows Arunachal Pradesh as part of China (not disputed), in addition to just Tibet. You should have a discussion with your Maps department to change all this.  </p>
<p>Arunachal Pradesh, like Tibet was mostly Buddhist. Chinese Communist military attacks of the 1950s under Mao Tse Tung seized Tibet. But Arunachal Pradesh remained part of India, and in recent election in 2009 elected a government by democratic process, with a 70% voting percentage of its electorate. This is clear evidence that there is no dispute in the minds of residents of Arunachal Pradesh about their borders, their loyalty and their traditions. In 2009, Dalai Lama, India&#039;s Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and other important leaders visited Arunachal Pradesh despite some Chinese protestations.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://www.webguild.org/20100115/google-embarrases-chinese-because-it-could-not-win-here/comment-page-1#comment-40136</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 00:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all, do you honestly believe Google is money hungry? I know for a fact that this is not the case. Google has a country like China, to whom they provide the opportunity to give an endless platform of knowledge to and yet they still complied with the censorship rules and laws. This already goes against everything that Google stands for. Knowledge should be accessible to everyone. Dumbass China controls this for it&#039;s people and if you look at the top Shareholders of Baidu.....they are Chinese Government officials. Don&#039;t tell me that this isn&#039;t politically involved already. There is no competition because China would like to invest simply in their own. If you were a business owner and a country whom you provided your services to....disrespected your company and everything you believed in and tried to steal information from you and never apologized for it, I&#039;m sure you would pull of out China as well. You talk as if you assume that Google did this because they couldn&#039;t win, however, you are completely wrong. Do you have any idea the time and effort that goes into restructuring the security systems that were breached? Do you have any idea how much a company has to spend in order to secure itself after something like this. No you have no idea. This article is so insane that you must remember all sides and understand that Google would never shoot its own foot unless they had to protect themselves. 
 
I must also say, that a couple of years ago when Yahoo was in serious trouble with it&#039;s shareholders, Google stepped up to assist Yahoo. They worked together to keep Yahoo afloat. Look it up if you have to. This is a prime example that Google &quot;doesn&#039;t do evil&quot; (their motto). In fact they embrace their competition and Baidu doesn&#039;t fall close to the competition that they have here in Silicon Valley. So quit with all this foolish Pro-Chinese Government shit... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, do you honestly believe Google is money hungry? I know for a fact that this is not the case. Google has a country like China, to whom they provide the opportunity to give an endless platform of knowledge to and yet they still complied with the censorship rules and laws. This already goes against everything that Google stands for. Knowledge should be accessible to everyone. Dumbass China controls this for it&#039;s people and if you look at the top Shareholders of Baidu&#8230;..they are Chinese Government officials. Don&#039;t tell me that this isn&#039;t politically involved already. There is no competition because China would like to invest simply in their own. If you were a business owner and a country whom you provided your services to&#8230;.disrespected your company and everything you believed in and tried to steal information from you and never apologized for it, I&#039;m sure you would pull of out China as well. You talk as if you assume that Google did this because they couldn&#039;t win, however, you are completely wrong. Do you have any idea the time and effort that goes into restructuring the security systems that were breached? Do you have any idea how much a company has to spend in order to secure itself after something like this. No you have no idea. This article is so insane that you must remember all sides and understand that Google would never shoot its own foot unless they had to protect themselves. </p>
<p>I must also say, that a couple of years ago when Yahoo was in serious trouble with it&#039;s shareholders, Google stepped up to assist Yahoo. They worked together to keep Yahoo afloat. Look it up if you have to. This is a prime example that Google &quot;doesn&#039;t do evil&quot; (their motto). In fact they embrace their competition and Baidu doesn&#039;t fall close to the competition that they have here in Silicon Valley. So quit with all this foolish Pro-Chinese Government shit&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis Thompsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis Thompsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 16:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google thinks they are the big bully. 
Worldwide boycott Google 
Pressure China for better human rights. 
12 years prison for an innocent victim is way too harsh </description>
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Worldwide boycott Google<br />
Pressure China for better human rights.<br />
12 years prison for an innocent victim is way too harsh</p>
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		<title>By: Giggle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Giggle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 05:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL Karma is a b*tch Google &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4308678.stm&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4308678.stm&lt;/a&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL Karma is a b*tch Google <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4308678.stm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4308678.stm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 04:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You must be a bloody Chinese communist for writing this article. Your  writing skills just endorse that fact. 
Human rights suck in China and the only reason they help Africans is for the oil and minerals. Let us talk about aid they give to other countries WITHOUT expecting anything in return. ZILCH 
Americans eeven in tough times have aided and helped everyone selflessly. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You must be a bloody Chinese communist for writing this article. Your  writing skills just endorse that fact.<br />
Human rights suck in China and the only reason they help Africans is for the oil and minerals. Let us talk about aid they give to other countries WITHOUT expecting anything in return. ZILCH<br />
Americans eeven in tough times have aided and helped everyone selflessly.</p>
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